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the cosmological argumentthe problem with the first cause argument or its more sophisticated incarnation the kalam cosmological argument is that its major premise - that the universe matter and time sprang from quotnothingnessquot - is not proven no cosmological model states this most models suggest that the universe existed in another form apart from matter or time quotuntilquot the big bang happened hence what the big bang represents is not anything coming into existence but merely an already existent phenomenon transitioning from unrecognizable form into matter and timeeven if the first cause or kalam cosmological argument039s premise were true in that the universe consisting of matter and time had a beginning from nothingness all that one is doing is trading one impossibility for another the kalam argument states that since nothing can come from nothing the universe had to have a causeyet how do we know that nothing can come from nothing well the only way we can know this is by observation and making an inference from that observation and applying it to the universe at large put aside for the moment the fundamental problem that nowhere have we ever observe pure nothingness if we preclude that the universe cannot come from nothing based on what we see around us we must also deny the ex nihilo creation of the universe by god why should we deny the ex nihilo creation of the universe by god well if we say that nothing can come from nothing by taking our observation of what we can see and applying that the universe then we must also deny ex nihilo creation because we have never seen any creature create something out of nothing if inference from one observation applies to the universe at large so does the other inferenceit is at this point that the theist will say that god can create things ex nihilo because he transcends scientific laws and he is miraculous etc etc etc to this i answer how convenient essentially they are defining god in such away that makes him immune to argument well can039t we do the same can039t we say that the universe039s emergence from nothingness is a miracle because the universe is miraculousfundamentally it comes down to what david brooks said well: quotto explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacyquot and that is what is precisely wrong with the cosmological argument and the teleological design argumentto explain one mystery how the universe came to exist with another mystery god who suffers from the same problem as the first mystery how does god exist and create anything is not an explanation or proof of anything you are just compounding the conundrum unnecessarily it is more intellectually honest to say i don039t know how it all happened than to say god did itit should be stated that even if the kalam cosmological argument were true it still does not prove the christian god or any specific entity for that matter at most it proves the need for an uncaused cause that may have intelligence to say that this proves the christian god or allah is to commit the biggest of non sequiturs -aphacause

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http:bigthinkcomthe advice columnist normally quite critical of religion tells us how a catholic priest helped his mother come to terms with his homosexualityquestion: how did you come out dan savage: yeah i mean i was raised in a really religious family evangelical catholics my parents were in catholic marriage encounter for the tristate area and i went to a seminary and i was thinking about becoming a priest and i realized i was gay pretty early and i think i had intimations even as like three and four years old that you know i told my mom that i was going to be a girl when i grew up and what does that mean was i trans no i think at three and four i was looking at the relationships that my female relatives had with men and thinking well i039m going to have that kind of a relationship so i must be a girl that is the only explanation that one day i will be a girl because i want a husband and that is how you get a husband you have to be a girland then i sor

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